I found a BUNCH of cool stuff. I don’t know if I can apply all of it, but here goes nothing.
I found an xbox forum discussing Dickens. It seems really interesting because it’s a true dialogue that I don’t have to invent and hope is accurate of the student’s point of view:
kK stoned
05-04-03, 08:09 PM
Do you think Charles Dickens is a great writer or overrated? I mean, yeah he has nice plot twists and stuff but Great Expectations and I read over 100 pages of Tale of Two Cities and its soooo BORING. I think he’s a bit overrated.
Garp
05-04-03, 08:10 PM
HAHAHAHA! Because you found him boring he’s overated? David Copperfield is a triumph of literature!
Valentino the Cynic
05-04-03, 08:18 PM
I’ll tell you who is over-rated… Shakespeare. Did anyone notice that MacBeth and Julius Caesar were nearly the same type of story?
And To Kill a Mockingbird… I’ve read better, but everyone puts the book on a pedestal.
Echelon
05-04-03, 08:25 PM
I totally agree with ya.
I’m also gonna throw in Lord of the Flies. I didn’t like the book at all.
EDIT: My English teacher told of us of other stories and plays that Shakespeare copied from. Inspiration perhaps but he did copy them big time. Then again, because of Shakespeare the English language became more well known.
mtbaird56877
05-04-03, 08:26 PM
oh man i hate him
im reading a tale of two cities right now, it sucks donkey balls also Great Expectations sucked, i wish Miss Joe beat the crap outta pip with the tickler though, that would have made it so much better
Valentino the Cynic
05-04-03, 08:27 PM
Lord of the Flies could’ve been very interesting, but the author wanted to wrap up the story too quickly with a happy ending of the rescue, thereby ruining the theme of the story…
mtbaird56877
05-04-03, 08:28 PM
YAHHHHH i really wanted to see how they got back to living normal and if the adults found out about the deaths of some of the kids and stuff, it coulda been reallllly interesting
tomchxbox
05-04-03, 10:40 PM
Because you’re bored with an author doesn’t make him overrated. I was bored with 1984 the first time I read it in HS. Since, I have read it 4 times and consider it to be a masterpiece.
I was bored with Fitzgeralds ‘The Great Gatsby’ in HS, only to read it again in college and realize the genius of the book.
Give it time, and not all books or great works can be truly appreciated without a little help (i.e. classes with good teachers)
freedom brock
05-05-03, 06:44 AM
The problem with reading books written more than about a hundred is that the language gets in the way, but they are interesting in terms of giving you an insight into life in that time period, btw, did you know that Charles dickens was paid a flat rate (a penny for every so many words or something)
toolband
05-05-03, 09:03 AM
how can anyone call him overrated? we all play videogames and talk on a stupid forum:(
Here’s the website:
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:v6xQapzUAqQJ:forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-193939.html+Great+Expectations,+dickens,+sucks&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
There was a LOT more discussion after that point, but I thought the opening points were really good for a teenage perspective.
And then I also found this for The Scarlet Letter:
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:U9Up6p9qku8J:www.librarything.com/work/2264+the+scarlet+letter,+high+school&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Scrolling down the page a bit reveals a bunch of really educated people speaking about Hawthorne’s book. I dont’ think this is quite what I’m going for, but it might be interesting to contrast a students perspective with a teacher’s.
Speaking of perspective, I found this article http://www.ncte.org/library/NCTEFiles/Resources/Journals/EE/0354-july03/EE0354Booktalk.pdf which is really insightful for perspective.